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compar
04-03-2006, 09:57 PM
One of the reasons I subscribe to LinksManager is because of the list of available partners on LinkPartners. However it is my experience that these people are the slowest and the worst people to put up the reciprocal link. In turn you can't email them.

I think LinkPartners should ban anybody that doesn't reciptocate in some reasonanly short time period.

giftsofblessings
04-04-2006, 01:30 AM
I have been checking and have found that many times I have requested an exchange and the request wasn't sent until weeks later. The reason I found this out was someone requested an exchange with me and I got a delete link all the same day and they got made at me saying I had weeks to respond and had not done so. I dont think they believed me about just getting the request but it was true. After this I started asking people who accepted my request when they received it only to find out many had just received request made as long as a month prior. I also asked people who were requesting an exchange with me how long it had been since they requested and found the same thing. I wonder were our request hang out while they are waiting to be sent???

nozzmoking
04-04-2006, 09:13 AM
One of the reasons I subscribe to LinksManager is because of the list of available partners on LinkPartners. However it is my experience that these people are the slowest and the worst people to put up the reciprocal link. In turn you can't email them.

I think LinkPartners should ban anybody that doesn't reciptocate in some reasonanly short time period.

I know exactly what you mean, and it can be quite frustrating to put all that effort in with little visible reward.

I tend to be a little more relaxed these days when seeking links. Reciprocal linking is only a part of the overall SEO process and in my view, and many others, shouldn't be given priority over producing good, fresh content on your site. It's been said many times, including here at the LinksManager site, that the way forward these days is to concentrate on making your site as useful and interesting for the end user as possible. Back this up with legitimate on-page optimisation, coupled with a steady linking strategy, and you can't go far wrong.

If someone doesn't reply to your link request, move on, don't get hung up about it.

Make sure your automated email response has been worded correctly and is in a friendly, businesslike style.

I would also recommend you visit every site that you are requesting links from, to make sure it is a legitimate site, with no scammy SEO practises that could damage your own rankings.

Remember, this is not a get-rich-quick scheme, you need to focus on the long haul ahead and only select sites that are of benefit to your own users. If there is a site you particularly want in your directory, but has not responded to you, then visit the site, find a contact email address and send them a polite email with your request. Make sure you have a link to them already in place and supply the url so they can quickly check it. Offer them a place in your top 10 categories to sweeten it slightly.

Give them at least a month to respond. Many people will only look at links once a week, or every other week. Factor in holidays, illness, heavy workloads etc. and you will see that it can take time for someone to respond.

If that doesn't work, move on, it's just one link.

rurik
04-05-2006, 09:38 AM
I agree with nozzmoking's comments. Website promotion is an inherently long-term process as the web is an ever growing universe and competition is constantly on the increase. As strange as this may sound, I am almost a little more reassured when a link swap takes more time than expected because this may indicate that I am dealing with an actual human being on the other end of the transaction that may be just as busy as I am versus some scammy SEO company or automated link factory. And I COMPLETELY agree that you should visit each site that you intend to exchange links with to make sure that the site complies with your standards.

In my experience using LinksManager.com and LinkPartners.com in concert with each other, I do find that there can be longer than expected periods where a response is not received from a potential link partner. My suspicion though is that this has to do more with the person on the other end either not checking their account often enough or not properly handling the link swap request emails. I know from testing between a few of my websites and accounts, that the correspondence emails sent for link swap requests are received within two hours of initiating a request and specifically seeing new sites show up in my pending link list happen almost instantaneously. My guess is that, more often than not, the "Human Error" element comes into play when there is an extreme delay in hearing back from a site. The benefit of this latency is that your links pages do tend to grow at a more “natural” pace once successful link swaps occur.

gbofb
04-05-2006, 10:48 AM
I do agree that sometimes we are waiting on people who just take their time in responding or the (what I consider rude) people who decide to delete and not send a delete email, leaving us to wonder if we are waiting on them to decide. But, I still stand firm that many times there is a delay in receiveing the link request. Check the date of submission on the top. I received one Friday that had the submission day of March 18th but it had just arrived in my request box. I have been wondering if it has to do with how many request we send at once? I tend to spend a couple of days checking out sites and requesting all at once then waiting a couple of months and searching again. This means I may request as many as 150 exchanges at once. For those of you finding it to be human error how many do you request at one time and how long inbetween do you wait?

Phil Staff
04-05-2006, 12:04 PM
I can already see that this subject will be a popular thread. This is one of the most asked questions on the HelpDesk and is oftentimes the most difficult to answer simply because everyone is so different.

There are many good points on both sides of the argument. Everyone runs their link exchange differently depending on different goals. Yes it would be very nice if everyone either responded right away and posted your link on their site right away so the link checker would find it on the first try or send you a link deleted email if they don't want to link with you, but in reality that just does not happen many times as some webmasters are lackadaisical.

Since LinksManager is editor based there is definately a human element and that is so important in the long run of a quality reciprocal link campaign. Yes I agree that it may slow down the process but in order to keep on the search engines good side everyone should be careful about the amount of 'automation' their link campaign uses. Yes a good reciprocal link campaign takes time and work but the rewards do pay off in the long run.

Regarding the delay of emails, that should not be occuring and is an issue that should be looked into further.

As rurik mentioned: correspondence emails sent for link swap requests are received within two hours of initiating a request and specifically seeing new sites show up in my pending link list happen almost instantaneously

As gbofb stated: But, I still stand firm that many times there is a delay in receiveing the link request. Check the date of submission on the top. I received one Friday that had the submission day of March 18th but it had just arrived in my request box.

If you do not experience the same results as rurik then you may want to submit a HelpDesk ticket under your LinksManager account and have us look into this issue further.

If we can re-create the delay then we can find out where any problem may be. I cannot say for sure where the problem may be but I know if it is on the LinksManager or LinkPartners end we need to address that.

If you can copy the emails that were delayed and paste in a HelpDesk ticket along with the Link Id # information and any other important information we would be happy to further investigate.

sharonbretl
04-05-2006, 12:54 PM
I thought I was the only one finding link partners not reciprocating on a timely basis. I know I always have responded right away to my link requests. I just thought that they didn't wanted to link back, so I just delete their link and move on. However, I did have someone get really mad at me once, because she felt I didn't give her enough time to respond back. I probably should give a little more time in the future if it is a "link partners" dilemma.

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simons1321
04-05-2006, 03:14 PM
i currently manage multiple linksmanager accounts so figuring out who has linked yet or not is always important and not something i have a ton of time to deal with. So to help myself along the way I've adopted a rule of deleting any non reciprocating links after 2 weeks (sometimes a month).

This strategy so far has worked very well. And if i find that a webmaster wants to reciprocate later on down the road then i'll re add his site.

movingman
04-20-2006, 09:49 AM
Most of these website owners do not have a full-time web person managing their reciprocal links process. With this fact in mind, you'll need to come up with your own strategy or process for dealing with these webmasters.

In my case, I usually remove a website after 5 days if I don't hear back from them. It can be frustrating, but once you've come to the realization that not many webmasters take reciprocal linking as seriously as you do you'll be fine.

In fact, I've been told by many small businesses that link exchanges is NOT a priority to them. They preferred to spend time and money on offline methods of sending people to their business or website.

One method I've used with some success is to search in Google for keywords relating to your industry and then emailing the Top 20 websites for reciprocal link exchanges. From my understanding, most website owners are awared of their positions in Google and other search engines and these owners will be more incline to maintain their positions in Google by being more receptive to link exchanges.

elliot
06-13-2006, 02:29 AM
I know from testing between a few of my websites and accounts, that the correspondence emails sent for link swap requests are received within two hours of initiating a request and specifically seeing new sites show up in my pending link list happen almost instantaneously. My guess is that, more often than not, the "Human Error" element comes into play when there is an extreme delay in hearing back from a site. The benefit of this latency is that your links pages do tend to grow at a more ?natural? pace once successful link swaps occur.

I've had checks bounce because business people didn't bother to open their mail or make bank deposits for two or three weeks after I gave them the check. If people can be that lackadasical about checks for hundreds of dollars, it's easy to understand how some can't be bothered to check their inbox regularly.
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