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The Leader
05-03-2009, 10:51 PM
What out when you get an exchange link from a .php site. You'll often find that when you look up the page you will see a white screen with just your link on it which I am sure will just be deleted later.
Avoid like the plague!
I actually use ragepanks spam-o-meter (http://www.ragepank.com/spam-o-meter/) when determining who to link with.
The Leader
05-07-2009, 12:16 AM
I actually use ragepanks spam-o-meter (http://www.ragepank.com/spam-o-meter/) when determining who to link with.
How does it determine what is spam?
If the main pages rank low then you know the rest of the site is likely not worth giving a second look.
Personally there's a lot of things I look for when deciding whether or not to link to another site and rarely is it only due to the link pages or link structure. Often only a few clicks around the main page is all you need to determine whether or not linking is even worth it.
...or I could just avoid your obvious self promoting spam and do it myself thus not having to worry about whether or not the service you offer is on the up and up. ;)
The Old Sarge
05-10-2009, 11:01 AM
I'm with Duke. :cool:
Phil Staff
05-18-2009, 12:07 PM
What a great job Google did at forcing webmasters to play inside their grading system. My apologies for seeming negative :D but I just don't think you can reduce a site's value down to a number between 0 and 10.
To me PR is not the end all measurement any longer. It used to be important but I think it has been going downhill. There are many more factors that come into play with SE rankings. Some people spend too much time worrying about their PR or another site's PR.
Do what is right for your end user/visitor. That is what it is truly all about.
Your own two eyes, common sense, experience and gut instinct can be a better measurement of a site's value to your visitor. I agree with Duke on the statement that you can typically tell who is good to link with after only a few clicks through their website.
Check out their source code too as that can normally help you differentiate webmasters that are doing linking and SEO ethically versus those that are trying to trick the system for their own gains.
The reasoning to my opinion on PR:
My personal webmaster site had a PR0 for 4 years!! 4 years!! :eek:
I didn't cheat or try anything that wasn't search engine friendly. Eventually I just gave up on the whole PR thing.
Yet the whole time I still ranked on the first page ( #1 through #3 ) for a three word key phrase even though there were PR5 sites that ranked lower than me.
I now have a PR1 or PR2 depending on how you enter the site. Still rank in the top three on page one from my search terms.
Phillip C.
The Old Sarge
05-18-2009, 12:34 PM
Sounds familiar, Phil. I have the same sorts of things happening with the two sites in my signature.
The Leader
05-18-2009, 08:32 PM
If Google says is calculates Serps with PR as one of its elements then we'd have to think its important. Especially if PR is a product of inbound links and we are all busy getting inbound links!
The thing with google is that they are such a giant now no matter what they say most webmasters will swallow it regardless of how much time it consumes. I think the best thing anyone can do for their site is take everything with a grain of salt and monitor the stats to get a feel for what it is that their visitors want.
Spend some time in cPanel and monitor daily activity of your stats, if you don't have access get an Analytics Account (http://www.google.com/analytics/) and keep an eye on them, daily.
Reciprocal linking takes time but submitting to quality link directories does not and many of them are free.
In other words, don't put all your eggs in one basket because should you stumble your site becomes nothing other than a stinking mess.
@ Phil Staff, what is the url to your webmaster site?
The Leader
06-08-2009, 08:48 PM
I was watching a couple of php links that I swapped with and found they were deleted after about 3 weeks.
Definitley no linking with sites that only have you link on a php page!
Johnbear
08-11-2009, 12:35 AM
Often only a few clicks around the main page is all you need to determine whether or not linking is even worth it.
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The Leader
08-17-2009, 08:05 AM
Often only a few clicks around the main page is all you need to determine whether or not linking is even worth it.
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or if they are an .ru site then instant delete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scottie
08-22-2009, 08:40 AM
What out when you get an exchange link from a .php site. You'll often find that when you look up the page you will see a white screen with just your link on it which I am sure will just be deleted later.
Avoid like the plague!
I don't like you taring all .php sites with the same brush. I use .php because the php include is much easyer for things like navigation bars, and keeps editing the site easyer and cleaner. And when you link to my site(s) I'll add you to my directory as well as a links page. And as long as your link to my site(s) remain yours will. Just because you have a few bad experiances please don't make those of use that are honest look bad.
Ghost Wytch
09-18-2009, 07:18 PM
I have to agree with Scottie. I just don't think that it is fair for you to lump all those with .php site into the same category with spammers. My site runs on a .php platform because I like the ease of use. So that puts my Links page on a .php page. However, I do not delete my Link Partners links after a few weeks/months unless I find that they have not held up their end of the bargain. That practice does not make me equal to a spammer.
free-acne-care-info
10-21-2009, 02:31 AM
What a great job Google did at forcing webmasters to play inside their grading system. My apologies for seeming negative :D but I just don't think you can reduce a site's value down to a number between 0 and 10.
To me PR is not the end all measurement any longer. It used to be important but I think it has been going downhill. There are many more factors that come into play with SE rankings. Some people spend too much time worrying about their PR or another site's PR.
Do what is right for your end user/visitor. That is what it is truly all about.
Phillip C.
I totally agree with you Philip C. I feel too much emphasis has been put into PR and henceforth making webmasters reluctant to share links with new sites that just started out on the internet. Is it the end of the road for us, newbies?
Just as stated by Philip "Do what is right for your end user/visitor. That is what it is truly all about". My believe is....which ever sites that are interesting and intuitive.....it will eventually draw traffics.....frequent and returning visitors are the best indicators...
Here is an interesting read about PR, should anyone be interested:
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/10/15/google-ditches-pagerank-in-webmaster-tools
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Jimisan
Phil Staff
10-21-2009, 02:56 PM
Hey PR fans we recently found an article about why PR updates seem to never happen. That article pointed us to the FAQ right on Google's site that clearly states "Don't worry. In fact, don't bother thinking about it."
http://sites.google.com/site/webmasterhelpforum/en/faq--crawling--indexing---ranking#pagerank
Just thought I would pass that on to everyone.
Phil
The Old Sarge
10-22-2009, 01:44 PM
Right from the horse's mouth, Phil. You think folks will believe it now? lol
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